About the Podcast:

Difficult patches, communication breakdowns, and periods of estrangement are a part of a lot of important relationships. Clancy discusses how we can talk through differences to solve food insecurity with diversity viewpoint expert and consultant Erin McLaughlin.


Her #1 tip to improve access to healthy food:

When something bad happens, you can expand or contract. If you contract, you make your world really small.

About Erin McLaughlin:

Erin is the founder of Positive-Ed Consulting and has spent her career focused on the best methods of unlocking potential. Beginning in the advertising industry and then moving on into the realm of education, Erin has worked tirelessly with individuals, groups, and teams to help them recognize, develop, and apply their strengths to reach their goals. Her particular area of expertise is in viewpoint diversity, a subject she created a construct for and was mentored in by Dr. Jonathan Haidt of New York University.

Erin has been a strong advocate of strengths-based approaches for years. Following her graduation from the University of Pennsylvania, Erin went straight to work with her master’s in applied positive psychology. She soon became a Gallup-Certified Strengths Coach and founded Positive-Ed Consulting in an effort to make a bigger and better difference in the world.

Discussion Takeaways:

  • If you believe other people matter, then they matter even when they aren’t like you.
  • When you feel certain you are right, it is the exact time you need to take a step back to examine if you might be wrong.
  • When people do not give much thought to food access, it is a privilege.
  • Empathy is biased because we find it much easier to empathize with people who look and act like we do.
  • People are not against healthy food access but can be against government supporting food assistance programs, which is dangerous.
  • Ask questions with positive curiosity.
  • To understand a situation, you have to step out of the feeling of being right.
  • If you are so sure you are right, chances are that you are really wrong.
  • “Being wrong feels like being right.” – Kathryn Shulz
  • It is empowering to say you don’t know everything; admitting that you are wrong is tremendous strength.
  • It is exhausting, boring and stressful trying to be right and perfect.
  • You can create a positive space by choosing where you put your attention, thinking, and energy.
  • You cannot control other people. You can only control how you react.
  • Seek out ways to increase awareness.
  • Turn toward feelings that make you uncomfortable, and explore why you are uncomfortable to stay open and curious.
  • Self-righteousness is a dagger in our culture.
  • To impact hunger, increase awareness by being willing to check your own assumptions and have difficult conversations with others.

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